water…haiku…simile are the three task prompts… I couldn’t manage working out haiku today, I remembered the sequence, mirrored, surprisingly (to remember it) BUT no way I could be thinking in so few words to those patterns while using text in horizontal lines. Had a lot of other tasks to be catching up with, so English-form-Haiku’s on the back-burner, but I worked through some music inspired creative writing to help remember even what a Haiku means in a quite unfocussed way of sorts but leading me here re-working and adding to an earlier draft text.
I’m afraid it, english-form-Haiku, never looks, sounds or seems like poetry to me – I imagine the Japanese language form being poetic and also visually aunique art form in ways that cannot translate to our language mechanisms as Europeans / Americans / Westerners.
Although I get the poignancy of some Haiku examples written in English – it makes no sense to me that they have to be divided into three lines and asume that to be for reasons of following the tradition of Japanese character use which isn’t reliant on use of wide horizontal lines from what I vaguely remember from reading books about Japanese history and culture as a child and student.
I’ve only really ever paid attention to my daughter’s Haiku writing a few times quite some years ago now. I really couldn’t understand WHY her teacher was making such a fuss of getting them to make Haiku poetry over and again and it annoyed me no end to have persistent “I’ve done another Haiku poem” while I’d say it may be Haiku to you but it’s not even a poem” along with a more positive comment like “but I like your choice of words”. Ironically, I think my daughter’s teacher was in the same induction class at uni as me, tho’ I never did tell my daughter that. Her teacher was a very good teacher for most things, except poetry and art in my view! But who am I, the no-hope mature student that dropped out!
I’ve spotted a few Haiku during the day because you can’t avoid them, they’re everywhere even when you’re hoping NOT to find them, but apart from the first one I saw I’ve not actually looked at any, I’ve flown past. I’d rather try and get to to grips with resolving why my brain won’t process words in that way OR decide it’s just not for me at all and maybe then look at some to admire and appreciate. I’d still insist the three line arrangement of Haiku application within our English language structure is perhaps just as plain stupid as I am. The essence of such poetic application, in my mind, would be in delivering spoken form thus devoid of linear restriction.
I still reckon that Haiku has to be calligraphed / scribed in Japanese to actually work as poetic form, and spoken in Japanese … but not sure why I think like that I believe I saw an example or some, perhaps even during uni, 1994-1995.
I obviously couldn’t understand Japanese but the pattern was pleasing and again obviously syllables sounded are not represented in the way our written English language specifically denotes the division of sounding our words / phrases.
I haven’t even bothered refreshing my memory as to a stanza’s meaning, even though there’s a handy link on the assignment page, for wishing to focus my mind on the Haiku issue and the prompts.
So, bite-size posts were planned…free-writing thru the theory stuff took flight…getting my head round it… 1:40 am yesterday thinking, if i sleep first, i’ll be sluggish all day, have all my other stuff to do! … and haven’t actually made it to bed so far yet since. Please teach, no more lines!
water – i posted a droplet already but not a Haiku … droplet…a non-standard structure/form as far as I know, not really a poem anymore than a Haiku and no counting exactly, just spoken and visual form – but I might find there’s an academic term for it – probably otherwise known as madness! (How I came to be listening to 1980s pop music during the morning! Along with the unnecessary and rather unwelcome placement in my mind like a waterlogging damned barricade for poetic reasoning and I hve to imagine the insertion into the assignment text to be an example of see-me-lee (simile, short vowel sounds in English english.
… working area like a rough book seems like a nice idea for this one… and boy this blog needed some tweaks! So I got around to that while I drowned my drowned my innards in tea to match soggy water-logged Haiku-hecking-head. I am glad I don’t need to explain water to myself! (that’s a shame that’s only 14 syllables!) but maybe it’s NEARLY as easy as that – i don’t reckon it’s easy at all, condensing…condensation…water… I was trying!
my notes from earlier yesterday:
haiku … 5-7-5 =syllables + 3 lines
(that’s not meant to look like an equation but if I make it look like it makes no sense in maths forms it’ll make more sense to me!)
The other problem is it depends how you say stuff…cos like i’ve never heard simile pronounced see-me-lee…. or is that a cue to remember that’s it means nothing like similar, which was what i thought when i saw simile, but then reading the text, thought it meant the opposite of my understanding of simile, not that i usually remember what it means until i see it’s explanation… and the assignment text definition or my brain mixing it so… (what dropped in mind to page next = confused like soap…the long way round the plug and right down the drain left by the gulley…water…(arrived by that’s the way to go…) no form yet… just lots of dodgy word…) ( as stated earlier on another post).
extending the task – i’ll be a while managing seventeen syllables in three lines!
suggested extensions combining a haiku (=5-7-5) i can remember that much for now… with a tanka=5-7-5-7-7 so thus must mean 5-7-5+5-7-5-77? does it? no point going that far right now! 3 lines is plenty!
as for stanza, i can NEVER remember what that means – i know it looked it up in a directionary not ever so long ago, a matter of weeks, less than a month…
HAIKU- all i knew was that they’re very short but they made no sense even though I’d bet during school my daughter must’ve told me hundreds of times what one was, she wrote loads of the damn things. So, having been surrounded by poetic type people all these years i should stop showing myself up with such incompetencies and lack of worldly knowledge as to not know what slam poetry is either! remember NOT to be talking in class… this’ll take 3 flippin’ weeks an’all!
it’d be easier to cheat and re-make one Haiku from my droplet! perhaps… and maybe not!
i’m having a problem with the course material cos it says it has to be explicit – i know i’m a grown-up now, but there might kids around, and i’m the biggest one, to me explicit means OFFENSIVE language, like in explicit lyrics warnings and boy i don’t like them! i only ever got away with expletives in writing if i used quotation marks and insisted that was what my character said and the teacher could NOT make me change what my character said because that’s just impossible. So, just bloody awkward me when it comes to learning and teachers, i should say tutors – probably just some poor secretary chained to a desk and ergonomic stool with a lot of vending machine coffee and bonus tokens if they answer each commoner’s call within three wasssup’s…
I wasn’t expecting free writing prompts… and probably shouldn’t take the piss, though i need one soon a swe all do and still not eaten since this morning! all this stuff and i keep forgetting everythignelse!
nothing in there resembles Haiku or poetry but i’m gonna do creative writing with it and have more FUN… to do haiku i think i gotta use flippin paint! and maths! i can only do maths in pictures, not words in between lines!
Now 2:53amTuesday< think I’m practising for night shifts – just finished checking my assignment write-up (for my benefit of practising, I don’t know what you might coin it – it’s not exactly or rather not at all critique or analysis and I’ve done no research to qualify my opinions whatsoever – I think I’ll stick with my free-writing-ishque free-thinking-esque free-application form of study until after the course and see what I’m up to and capable of after that and whatever spills out along the way just does as is…)
Just remembered another sticking point – photos on assignment page are a hindrance because they pre-set / pre-fix visual image that stalls ability to process words as visual imagery, for me at least – and I can’t ignore them they’re like a big switch off for being able to write a poem. Any way to get a picture free page and treat viewing the photo like an assignment completion reward???
(also some minor typos deliberately left within text as their appearance pleased me whilst editing so I decided to leave them alone, only one or two-ish). LOTS of non-capitalised “I” but i keep going off capital(s) and upper case i is a class-ist insistence suggesting importance of the character – and i happen to be very real thankyou and i like my dot and my lower case and it’s ergonomically efficient in comparison…just to be awkward again AND as formal application of discursive daft notion is in big need of contemporary update – mind i’ve been nowhere near knowledge systems for ages… as you can tell…